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Adding and Multiplying

Age 11 to 14 Short Challenge Level:

Working out what number Amy started with
When Amy added 8 to the number and then multiplied by 5, she got 2015.
So after Amy had added 8 to the number but before she had multiplied by 5, she had 2015$\div$5 = 403.
So the number must have been 8 less than 403, which is 395.

Amy was supposed to multiply the number by 8 and then add 5.
395$\times$8 = 3160, and 3160 + 5 = 3165.
So Amy would have got 3165.



Using algebra to find what number Amy started with
When Amy added $8$ to the number and then multiplied by $5$, she got $2015$.
That means that $(n+8)\times5=2015$, where $n$ is the number that Amy started with.
If $(n+8)\times5=2015$, then $$\begin{align}n+8&=2015\div5\\n+8&=403\\n&=403-8\\n&=395.\end{align}$$
Amy was supposed to multiply $n$ by $8$ and then add $5$, so she should have found $8n+5$.
$$8n+5=8\times395+5=3160+5=3165.$$



Using algebra to find the value of the correct expression
When Amy added $8$ to the number and then multiplied by $5$, she got $2015$, so $(n+8)\times5=2015$, where $n$ is the number that Amy started with.
Amy was supposed to multiply $n$ by $8$ and then add $5$, so she should have found $8n+5$.

We want to get from $(n+8)\times5$ to $8n+5$. Knowing $(n+8)\times8$ would be helpful, because $$\begin{align}(n+8)\times8&=8n+64\\&=8n+(5+59)\\&=(8n+5)+59\end{align}$$

If $(n+8)\times5=2015$, then $n+8=2015\div5=403$, so $(n+8)\times8=403\times8=3224$.

So $3224$ is $59$ more than $8n+5$, so $8n+5=3224-59=3165$. So Amy would have got $3165$.
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