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Age 14 to 16

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This problem is one of a set of problems about probability and uncertainty. Intuition can often let us down when working on probability; these problems have been designed to provoke discussions that challenge commonly held misconceptions. You can read more about it in this article.

An important strategy in answering probability questions requires us to consider whether it is easier to work out the probability of an event occurring or NOT occurring, and using the fact that the two probabilities sum to 1. This problem uses this technique.

For a class of 30, ask everyone to write down a number between $1$ and $225$ **without letting anyone see**. (If the class size is $N$, ask them to write down a number between $1$ and $(\frac{N}{2})^2$)

Once everyone has chosen, go round the class and ask each person to read out their number, with everyone listening to hear if their number is read out again. On most occasions, there will be duplicates.

"OK, let's have another go, you have $225$ numbers to choose from so let's see if you can manage to make them all different!" (Don't allow collaboration on which numbers to choose!)

The experiment can be repeated a few times, or the interactivity can be used to generate sets of random numbers for a class of 30 to get a sense of how often everyone manages to pick a unique number.

On one occasion, after the first person has read their number, interrupt and ask "What's the probability that the next person has written a different number?", and highlight that it's very likely!

Ask a similar question a little further along the line: "What's the probability that the next person has a number that has not been read out so far?" Though the fraction will have changed, it will still be very close to 1, so learners' intuition may be that it is very likely that everyone will choose a different number.

Once everyone has had the chance to be surprised that duplicate numbers happen much more often than not, hand out this worksheet (Word, PDF) and ask the class to discuss the questions and work out their answers with their partner. (You may wish to detach the Extension task from the bottom of the
sheet, and hand it out later to those who need it.)

The Extension task is the well-known Birthday Problem; students could work out the probability of shared birthdays in various class sizes and then use school records to see if the tutor groups in the school have shared birthdays with the expected frequency.

What's the probability (at each stage) that the next person has written a number that has not been read out so far?

What's the probability that the second AND third person (and fourth, and fifth...) have numbers which are different from the first person's and each other?

If I know the probability that every number is different, how can I work out the probability that at least 2 numbers are the same?

The problem At Least One... provides an introduction to using tree diagrams and working with mutually exclusive events whose probabilities sum to 1.

The Birthday Problem provides an interesting extension.

Students might be interested in these articles and related materials on the Understanding Uncertainty website:

For interested students (or teachers), the "Matching Problems" section of this article by David Spiegelhalter explains the derivation of the $(\frac{N}{2})^2$ formula mentioned above - the maths required to fully understand it is at Stage 5 level.