This problem looked at permutations or combinations of possibilities. At first it might seem, as several people thought, the eight runners could each finish the race in just one of three positions -- which they wrote down as 8x3. This gave 24 possible ways of finishing. In fact it is more complex problem than that.
The following solutions show that in fact any one of the eight runners could come first, leaving seven runners who could take the second place and any one of the remaining six could come in third.
The members of Burgoyne Maths Club explain their different approaches to organising the information and how they began to find a solution by writing down the possible ways of the runners might finishing the race.
"Some of us gave the 8 pupils names, some letters and some
numbers. We started with listing the combinations with runner
number 1 finishing in first position, and showing where the other
runners could have finished".
Phew!! Writing out solutions really helps you see if all of the possibilities have been included.
Then the Burgoyne Maths Club began to work on
the possibilities if runner number 2 was the one who came in at the
first position: 213
"At this point we realised there were 42 positions for each set of results". Once they had discovered a pattern, the Club members were able to finish the problem:
The total possible ways of coming first, second and third must be:42 x 8 = 336
Is this method different? Bryan Hooi , of Primary 5J at Henry Park Primary School described his solution way of finding the solution.
"There are 8 possibilities for the first place.
For each of these 8, there are the other 7 possibilities for second place.
Therefore, for first and second place, there are 8 x 7 = 56 possibilities.
For each one of these, there are 6 possibilities for third place.
Therefore, for first, second and third place, there are 56 x 6 = 336 possibilities".
George Vassilev from Rosebank Primary School in Leeds had another method. Can you see how is it similar or different from the first two ways?
"First I named all the people = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.Then I
found out how many possible ways can they come in first, second,
and third if the first person is 1. So if the first person is 1
then there are seven people who can be second. So that leaves only
six people to be third. Now I multiplied six, seven, and one
6 * 7 * 1 = 42
That means there are 42 different ways for the people to come in first, second, and third if the first person is 1. Eight different people can be first and I have written about one of them but they all have 42 different ways so that means I times 42 by 8.
42 * 8 = 336
So there are 336 possible ways of the people coming in first, second, and third places".
Matthew Tattler and Steven Townend from Moorfield Junior School explained their solution differently and in a short way:
"There are eight possible people or ways of coming first. There are seven ways of coming second, and there are six ways of coming third. So that makes the sum 8x7x6, which equals 336, the total number of possible ways".
The same answers were reached by different methods. I wonder if anybody can add an explanation to Matthew and Steven's work that shows how they arrived at their answer.