There were lots of approximate solutions here coming so close
that the hands would appear to swop over. The closest were
Selina Tang from The International School, Brunei
who suggested that the train left at 6.47 and arrived at 9.34
taking 2 hours 47 minutes and Kang Hong Joo, The
Chinese High School, Singapore, who suggested 2 hours 46 minutes
but admitted to being unable to explain why. If you know that it
leaves between 6.47 and 6.48 and arrives between 9.33 and 9.34 can
you get closer to the exact times?
As often seems to happen 3 solutions arrived almost
simultaneously to this. Edwin
Taylor , The Leventhorpe School, Sawbridgeworth, Herts,
Ling Xiang Ning (who is
doing great work in cracking many of these tough nuts) and
Stephan Bach-Frommer and
Steven Shaw from King
George the Fifth School, Hong Kong are to be congratulated on their
solutions.
What follows is Stephan's account of their work. The NRICH
team was particularly pleased to receive this because it was not a
method we had used for this problem. "This puzzle can be tackled in
a number of different ways. At first I wrote the formula for the
angular positions of both hands at a given time. However I soon
realized that using an iterative approach would be somewhat faster.
I solved the puzzle during break with my friend so I must mention
him as well. I hope the solution is correct. As I said the question
caught my interest because of the different number of approaches.
I'm sure the one I chose was not the simplest but I was able to do
the puzzle in about 15 minutes. Once again, great site and keep up
the good work.
We formed the iterative formula by looking at the position of
the hour and minute hands at a certain time. The position was
defined as a fraction of the clock face so 45 minutes was equal to
${3\over 4}$.
By simply looking at a clock one can see that the time of
embarkation must be after $6{\cdot}45$ but this time is taken as a
first approximation to the starting time.
The hour hand moves $1/12$ of the fraction that the minute
hand moves. The iteration depends on the fact that the position of
the minute hand determines the position of the hour hand together
with the fact that the two hands swop positions. Between six and
seven o'clock the ${1\over 2}$ represents the initial six hours
that the hour hand had moved previously.
When the minute hand is at $X$ (between 9 and 10 on the clock
face) the hour hand is at $${X\over 12} + {1\over 2}$$ (between 6
and 7 on the clock face).
If, at the finish, the minute hand is at $${X\over 12} +
{1\over2}$$ (between 6 and 7 on the clock face) the hour hand is at
$${3\over4} + ({X\over 12} + {1\over 2}) \times {1\over 12}$$
(between 9 and 10 on the clock face). The iteration takes this as
the new position of the minute hand at the start. \par To discover
the iterative formula, we did the iteration `manually' for a few
steps.
| Time |
Minute |
|
Hour |
| $6{\cdot}45$ |
$\frac{3}{4}$ |
$\rightarrow$ |
$\frac{3}{4} \times
\frac{1}{12}+\frac{1}{2}=\frac{9}{16}$ |
|
|
|
$\downarrow$ |
| $9{\cdot}30$ |
$\frac{51}{64}\times\frac{1}{12}+\frac{1}{2}= \frac{145}{256}$ |
$\leftarrow$ |
$\frac{3}{4}+\frac{9}{16}\times\frac{1}{12}=\frac{51}{64}$ |
From the working above the formula can be seen to be:
$$X_{n+1}=\left(\left({X_n\over 12}+{1\over 2}\right)\times{1\over
2} \right)+{3\over 4}, \quad X_0 = {3\over 4}.$$ A quick
consultation with our calculators gives the starting position of
the minute hand to be $114/143$. This corresponds to $$ 60
\times{114\over 143} = 47\frac{119}{143} = 47{\cdot}832167\
\mathrm{recurring\ minutes.} $$
The ending position of the minute hand is therefore $$
\frac{114}{143}\times \frac{1}{12} + \frac{1}{2} = \frac{81}{143}.
$$ This corresponds to $$33\frac{141}{143} = 33{\cdot}986013\
\mathrm{recurring\ minutes.} $$
The starting time is $$6\ {\rm hours} + 47\frac{119}{143}\
{\rm minutes}$$ and the finishing time is $$9\ {\rm hours} +
33\frac{141}{143}\ {\rm minutes}$$
Therefore the total time taken for the journey is $$2\ {\rm
hours}+ 46\frac{22}{143}\ {\rm minutes}$$ that is 2 hours 46
minutes and 120/13 seconds or 2 hours 46 minutes 9 seconds to the
nearest second.''
Footnote : Assuming
the iteration given by the formula $$X_{n+1}=\left(\left({X_n\over
12}+{1\over 2}\right)\times{1\over 2} \right)+{3\over 4}$$ tends to
a limit, say $L$, this limit can be found by solving the equation
$$L=\left(\left({L\over 12}+{1\over 2}\right)\times{1\over 2}