Brett Thompson
Posted on Thursday, 26 June, 2003 - 07:21 am:

Alright I have the following problem.

w X (w X r)

X is a cross product.
w = [wx, wy, wz] (A 3D line in space)
r = [rx, ry, rz] (A 3D line in space)

I can get this down to the following
w(w.r)-r(w.w) (.= dot product)

Can someone show me how to simplify this further??

Cheers
David Loeffler
Posted on Thursday, 26 June, 2003 - 11:54 am:

I think w is meant to be [wx , wy , wz ], rather than a vector proportional to [x,y,z].

David
Sarah Sarah
Posted on Thursday, 26 June, 2003 - 01:39 pm:

Are you sure it's possible to simplify? The geometrical interpretation of wx(wxr) is more obvious than that of any equivalent expression I can come up with - it's a vector in the same plane as r and w, perpendicular to w, with magnitude IwI2 IrIsinq where q is the angle between w and r. Or, you could say, -IwI2 times the projection of r perpendicular to w. Probably missed something, I usually do.. Does it help to draw some pictures?
Love Sarah
Edwin Chan
Posted on Saturday, 28 June, 2003 - 02:43 am:

Brett, here's a ''simplification'' if you can call it that:

Direction of w×(w×r)

w×(w×r) turns out to be a vector in the plane of w and r but antiparallel to r (pointing in the opposite direction) you can figure this out by repeated application of the right-hand rule. Furthermore note that if q is the angle between w and r then (p- q) is the angle between w and (w×r)

Magnitude of w×(w×r)

The magnitude of (w×r) is |w||r|sinq where |w| and |r| are the respective magnitudes of w and r

Therefore the magnitude of w×(w×r) is

|w||(w×r)|sin(p-q)

=|w||w||r|sinqsin(p-q)

=|w|2|r|sinq

Edwin Chan
Posted on Saturday, 28 June, 2003 - 03:08 am:

Although Sarah's formula is slightly different from mine, I guess what we're both saying is that sometimes it makes for better understanding to consider direction & magnitude separately than to just apply a rote algebraic formula.