| By Joanna Cheng on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 08:46 am: |
Just out of curiousity, would you define infinity as odd, even, neither, or both? I had a discussion with a friend the other day which brought up this question, and just wanted some different points of view on it. Thanks.
| By Chris Tynan on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 09:01 am: |
"Infinity [noun] - the state of having no bounds or limits,
endless. [math] an indefinite number of."
This is the dictionary evrsion of infinty. Simple logic dictates
that infinity is an undefined number, because if it was defined
we would know what it is and it would be finite. So, because we
don't know what it is (it is indeed endless) it is neither odd
nor even.
It is most definitely not both odd and even, these are two
mutually exclusive descriptions.
| By Yatir Halevi on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 02:11 pm: |
I'm not sure about your last line Chris, since every even number is of the form 2m and odd is of the form of 2m+1.
2¥ = ¥ 2¥+1=¥| By Julian Pulman on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 07:17 pm: |
I've got a funny story relating to this, a friend of mine a
few weeks ago asked me what the highest number description is, in
his words "e.g million, billion, trillion - y'know..". I uttered
"well a suppose that'd be a googolplex", to that his responce was
"oh, so a googolplex plus one is infinity then?".
The moral to that story is obviously itemised by Yatir's post:
"INFINITY IS NOT A NUMBER".
Think of infinity as being a description, "4 is an even number",
"13 is a prime", and similarly "1 divided by zero is
infinity"
i.e. infinity describes a number really really really (insert
extra 'reallys' here) big..
Julian
| By David Loeffler on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 10:01 pm: |
There's an amusing paradox called
Thompson's lamp which relates to this discussion. Suppose I have
a lamp where if I switch it on now, it will stay on for half a
minute, go off for a quarter of a minute, come back on again for
an eighth of a minute and so on.
In 1 minute's time, is it on or off?
In effect, this amounts to asking whether or not infinity is
even; it has switched from on to off or vice versa infinitely
many times. Of course there is no sensible answer, except to say
that you couldn't possibly construct such a lamp.
David