We know from Euler's ei x formula that eip = -1. But, we also know
that ei2p = 1, so why can't we take the two away using roots, and get
eip = 1 or -1? Similarly, why can't we say ei4p = 1, and use the
fourth root to get 4 answers? Why can't we do this an infinite amount of times
and get an infinite number of answers? I know we could say we can't do this
because of contradiction, but what is the reason for the contradiction?
Brad
This is like saying, suppose x = -1, then x2 = 1. If we now take roots we find x = +-1, so -1 = 1 or -1. Then we can consider xn = 1 and there are n roots for x and similarly we could do this an infinite number of times and get an infinite number of answers for -1.
You just have to remember that some operations aren't
reversible (ok the wording isn't right there, but I can't think
of the proper term).
Regards,
Olof.
When we solve xn = -1 we look for complex numbers x
which satisfy the equation.
eip is a complex number x which satisfies x2=-1. This does not
mean all other complex numbers such numbers x are equal to eip.
A similar argument might go...
Let S be the set of all people. My mum is a person therefore she
is in S, therefore every person is my mum.
I see. But, then, what significance does eip have if there are an
infinite other number of ways to evaluate eip (all of which are
different)) Is it just because that solution is a more "natural" solution that
we usually use it with it? Is it just easier to work with?
Brad
There is not an infinite number of ways of evaluating eip. eip=-1
is well defined (start talking about log on the complex numbers and you have a point).
There are n unique solutions to the equation xn = -1.
Do not confuse the two statements.
I'm not sure that's what I'm saying, though. If
ei 2 n p = 1, Then ei 2 np/2n = eip = 11/2n. Of course, -1
is one solution to this, but it is not the only. It is the only that will
appear no matter what n is (unless it's 0). Perhaps I'm not understanding
though (and that very could be the case)...
Sorry Brad, but this is *exactly*
analogous to the example given by the first Anonymous post,
i.e.
1n = 1, so 1n/n = 1 = 11/n , so
there are n different values for 1!
The problem is that you assume (an )1/n =
a, when it doesn't necessarily.
James.
I see now. Thanks to Olof, James, and Anon. Sorry if I sounded
rude earlier-if I did it was solely because of a lack of
comprehension on my part. Thanks once again,
Brad