I am doing some work on integration and differential equations. I got stumped by the following problems.
Q1: Show that the substitution y = vx, where v is a function of x, transforms the differential equationThen it says, "Hence solve the original differential eqn given that y=2 at x=1" - this part is fine, I can do, no probs. But the part that I stated before this is the problem.
xy(dy/dx) = x 2 + y2
into the differential equation vx(dv/dx) = 1.
Q2: The normal at every point on a given curve passes through the point (2,3). Prove that the eqn of the curve satisfies the differential eqn:
(x-2) + (dy/dx)(y-3) = 0
Hence find the cartesian eqn of the family of curves which satisfy the condition above. (I think I can do this part)
Find the eqn of the perpendicular curve which passes through the point (4,2).
Hal,
If y=vx, we have dy/dx=v+x(dv/dx). Substituting, we have
x(vx)(v+x(dv/dx))=x2 +(vx)2
Now cancel the common factor x2 and a little bit more
rearranging gives you the required form.
Now, for the second question. Do you know the general formula for
the equation of normal? The equation of normal is
(dy/dx)(x0,y0) (y-y0 )+(x-x0
)=0
And for the very last bit, two curves y=y1 (x) and
y=y2 (x) are perpendicular if and only if
(dy1 /dx)(dy2 /dx)=-1
at the point(s) of intersection.
Hope this helps.
Kerwin
Hi Kerwin,
Thanks for the quick response.
The problem for me to solving Q1 was that I was not sure how
exactly to tackle y=vx. I see that you have done this : (dy/dx)=
v + x(dv/dx). I however don't completely understand how you have
implicitly differentiated this. Why does the 'vx' part become 'v
+ x(dv/dx)'. Is this becaise v is a function of x. I think this
part would be better understood if I fully comprehended the
meaning of the line 'v is a function of x'. Am I right in
thinking that x is a function of y, thats why you get the LHS of
y ---> (dy/dx), and v is a function of x, so vx are a product
so it becomes x/(dv/dx). I am I on the right line of
thinking?
The second part of the Q1 is posing me more of a problem than I
initially thought. As the original differential eqn is xy(dy/dx)=
x 2 + y 2 , I am not fully aware of what to
do with the with any of the sides to get the x's and y's to
either side of the eqn. It got very messy when I tried
rearranging it. Here is how far I got:
Originally we have: xy(dy/dx) = x 2 +
y2
Then lets try to: y(dy/x) = x + (y 2 /x)
And divide through by y 2 : y -1 (dy/dx) =
(x/y) + (1/x)
Then (1/y)(1-x)(dy/dx) = (1/x)
Regarding question 2:
The general form that you showed I think I know in the form,
(note m=gradient), so (y-y1 ) = (1/m)(x-x1
), then rearrange you get m1 (y-y1 )
-(x-x1 ).
But how does that answer the question in proving it passes the
point (2,3). Even though the point initially takes was (2,0). How
do you put it into writing as an answer.
I did not get the right answer in the cartesian form
either.
Regards
HAL2001
Thanks Kerwin!
Its much clearer now.
The trick was not to assume that v was a constant and diff wrt x.
And treat the vx with the product rule.
The second part of the question, the reason I got thrown off the
path was that the question said to use the original differential
eqn, thus my goofed up attempt. The eqn you used works.
Thanks once again.
HAL2001
Hal,
Now for the second question, the normal to the curve has gradient
-(dx/dy) evaluated at x=x0 and y=y0 .,
where (x0 ,y0 ) is the point on the
curve.
so we have, assuming y=y1 (x), gradient of normal is
-1/(dy1 /dx)(x0,y0) passing through the
point (x0 ,y0 ) on the curve. So we
have
(y-y0 )=-1/(dy1 /dx)(x0,y0)
(x-x0 )
Rearranging gives (dy1 /dx)(x0,y0)
(y-y0 )+(x-x0 )=0.
Since the normal passes through (2,3), we have
(dy1 /dx)x0,y0 (3-y0
)+(2-x0 )=0
Now, since this properites is true for all point on the curve, we
can replace x0 by x and y0 by y, giving the
required answer as y1 =y.
Kerwin
Thanks for that further explanation Kerwin.
I don't quite understand why the last line of the post turned out
like (3-y 0 )+(2-x 0 ), I thought that it
would be the other way round like, m 2 (y-3) +
(x-2)=0
I also got confused with the notation in using subscript 1s and
0s generally. What does the line 'assuming y=y1 (x)'
mean?
I think I get the general drift of the solution that you
proposed. Though it has not quite completly hit me to be
instantly obvious, yet.
Regards
HAL2001
Hal,
Well, the last line should read
(dy1 /dx)(x0,y0) (3-y0
)+(2-x0 )=0,
which when multiplied both side by -1 and replacing x0
by x, y0 and y1 by y gives the required
solution.
The reason I used y1 (x) is completely arbitrary. You
can use simply y(x) if you wanted. Using y1 (x) has
the advantage on the second part, when I can use y2
(x) for the curve normal to y1 (x).
Hope this explains it.
Kerwin
Thanks Kerwin,
I see what you mean now.
The m1 x m2=-1.
Once again, thanks for your help.
HAL2001