By Archishman Ghosh on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:16 pm:

I need some help with these problems.

Evaluate

1) limxπ/4 (tan2x )tanx

( x in radians)

2) evaluate integral of

[ x2 ]dx/[(x-14 )2 ]+[ x2 ] from 0 to 14

here [x] denotes the largest integer less than or equal to x.


By Ian Short on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:05 pm:

Hi Archishman,

Sorry for delay, I've been away.

(1) I will look at the limit xπ/4 with x<π/4. This is because for x slightly greater than π/4, tan(2x)<0 and then we have a negative number to the power of tan(x). We could look at that later, but discuss just limit from below for now.

tan(2x)and tan(x)1 as xπ/4. This indicates that (tan(2x ))tan(x) also tends to .

To show this rigorously, restrict to x suitably near π/4 that tan(x) is greater than 1/2 then note tan(2x )tanx >tan(2x )1/2 . The right hand side shoots off to as x approaches π/4, hence the left hand side does likewise.

(2) This is your integral? 0 14 [ x2 ]/([(x-14 )2 ]+[ x2 ])dx

Set,

I= 0 14 [ x2 ]/([(x-14 )2 ]+[ x2 ])dx

J= 0 14 [(x-14 )2 ]/([(x-14 )2 ]+[ x2 ])dx

I think I=J by setting y=x-7 in I and y=7-x in J. Note also I+J= 0 14 dx=14.

So I=7.

Ian


By Archishman Ghosh on Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 07:00 pm:

Dear Ian,

I am so sorry, I actually typed the wrong limit problem. The problem that I wanted to give is

limxπ/2 tan xtan2x

This is of the form infinity to the power zero.How do you do this?


By Ian Short on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 11:35 am:

Well that's okay. Here are the essentials:

# Once again I'll look at the real limit from below, that is x<π/2 for the same reason as before.

# Set y=\p/2-x so that we are looking for the limit of tan(y )tan(2y) as y approaches 0 from above.

# Roughly speaking, tan(y)~y and tan(2y)~2y near the origin so the limit is essentially that of y2y which is 1.

# y2y = e2ylog(y) and ylog(y)0 as y0 from above (need any help showing this?)

# To elaborate on the 'roughly speaking' part you could show that for a, b>0, (ay )by 1 as y tends to 0 from above and sandwich tan ytan2y between two such limits. E.g. y4y <tan ytan2y <(2y )2y for small enough positive y.

Is that enough? Is that clear? Tell me if any problems,

Ian


By Archishman Ghosh on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 06:16 pm:

Ian,

forgive me if I am being stupid ,but when you put y=π/2-x, y0 so y2y is something like 00 .

Could you just elaborate how does its limit tend to 1?


By Ian Short on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 07:39 pm:

Hi!

# Archishman: The line after I first wrote y2y is meant to explain why the limit is 1. I'll be more explicit here:

For POSITIVE y, y2y = e2ylogy . Now ylogy0 as y0 ((set y= e-z then y0 equivalent to zand ylogy=-z/ ez 0 )) Hence y2y e2×0 =1.

Tell me how you go......

Ian