Conic Sections


By Amars Birdi on Saturday, September 22, 2001 - 03:25 pm:

Could anyone out there tell me how, via converting (#) to cartesian co-ordinates, I can show that (#) describes any conic section, depending on the values of the constants k and m?

1/r=kcos(q)+m ......(#)
(P.S. There are supposed to be only 3 conic sections: parabola, ellipse and hyperbola).
Thanks for any solutions.


By Arun Iyer on Sunday, September 23, 2001 - 07:46 pm:

I have an idea...

Put x=rcosq and y=rsinq

1/r=k x/r+m

1=k x+m r


r=   _____
Öx2+y2
 


1=k x+m   _____
Öx2+y2
 


m   _____
Öx2+y2
 
=l-k x


Squaring and rearranging you obtain:

m2 x2+m2 y2 +2x k-x2 k-1=0
The general equation of a circle is,
x2+y2+2g x+2f y+c=0

with centre (-g,-f) and radius
  _______
Ög2+f2-c
 


love arun


By Jim Oldfield on Monday, September 24, 2001 - 11:48 pm:

When the coefficient of x2 is different from that of y2 the equation seems to resemble that of an ellipse. The general equation for an ellipse is:

(x-xc )2 /a + (y-yc )2 /b = 1 (a,b > 0)

where (xc ,yc ) is the centre of the ellipse. You can complete the square for x then divide throughout by the remaining constant to get your example in this form.

I'm not sure what a and b (constants) represent, having not done much work in this area. Maybe someone else could explain.

Jim


[Editor's Comment: Jim's factorization above may be performed provided the constants a and b are non-zero. If they are non-zero then the equation represents an ellipse if ab> 0 and a hyperbola if ab< 0. In the elliptic case, 2a1/2 and 2b1/2 represent the 'width' and 'height' of the ellipse, try drawing one. Take Olof's link below for further information or visit http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Ellipse.html . The equation with a or b equal to zero yields parabolas and straight lines. Demetres has indicated possibilities for this below.]
By Olof Sisask on Tuesday, September 25, 2001 - 12:11 am:

I think this site should answer it:

http://thesaurus.maths.org/dictionary/map/word/3474 .

Just plug the values of the coefficients in and the answer should drop out.

Regards,
Olof


By Dimitri Cleanis on Tuesday, September 25, 2001 - 02:12 pm:

Hi,

In answering the original question,

1/r = kx/r + m
1 - kx = mr
Squaring both sides we obtain
x2 (m2 -k2 ) + y2 (m2 ) + 2kx = 1

Now let k = -m. This will give you the equation for a parabola with x intercept -1/(2m).

Let k = -mp (where p > 1). This will give you hyperbola with x intercepts +/- 1/((p-1)m)

Let k = -m/q (where q > 1). This will give you an ellipse.

Obviously, when making the above substitutions you will have to complete squares and do some algebraic manipulation.

In the above substitutions we can also let k = m, or k = mp or k = m/q and still get the desired conic sections, only that this time they will be reflected in the y axis.

regards
dimitri