Differentiating cross product


By Anonymous on Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 09:48 pm :

If a and b are vectors which depend on time, prove that

d/dt(a x b ) = (d/dt a ) x b + a x (d/dt b )

I have been given a hint to differentiate components in (a x b ) assuming base vectors are constants


By Kerwin Hui (Kwkh2) on Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 10:22 pm :

Suppose

a =a1 i +a2 j +a3 k
b =b1 i +b2 j +b3 k

then for simplicity, consider the i component:

(a x b )1 = (a2 b3 -a3 b2 )

so d/dt(a x b )1 = d/dt(a2 )b3 +a2 d/dt(b3 )-d/dt(a3 )b2 -a3 d/dt(b2 )
=[d/dt(a2 )b3 -d/dt(a3 )b2 ]+[a2 d/dt(b3 )-a3 d/dt(b2 )]
=[d/dt(a ) x b + a x d/dt(b )]1

Similar for other components.

Kerwin


By Anonymous on Wednesday, February 28, 2001 - 01:46 pm :

Isn't this just a case of the product rule of differentiation?


By Barkley Bellinger (Bb246) on Wednesday, February 28, 2001 - 09:14 pm :

Yes, but you may need to use suffix notation and the summation convention to be convinced.


By Michael Doré (Md285) on Thursday, March 1, 2001 - 12:55 pm :

Well we can use an alternative (but equivalent) definition of differentiation of vectors:

Define:

a ' (t) = (a(t + dt) - a (t))/dt

with dt tending to 0.

From here you get:

d(a ×b )/dt = (a (t+dt) × b (t+dt) - a (t) ×b (t))/dt

with dt tending to 0. You can write this as:

(a (t+dt) ×b (t+dt) - a (t+d t) ×b (t) + a (t+dt) ×b (t) - a (t) ×b (t))/dt

This can then be split into two terms:

(a (t+dt) ×b (t+dt) - a (t+ dt) ×b (t))/dt

and

(a (t+dt) ×b (t) - a (t) × b (t))/dt

Using the fact that the cross product is distibutive over addition, these two terms can be written:

a (t+dt) ×(b (t+dt) - b (t))/ dt

and

[(a (t+dt) - a (t))/dt] ×b (t)

These converge to a (t) ×b ' (t) and a ' (t) ×b (t) so d(a ×b )/dt converges to:

a (t) ×b ' (t) + a ' (t) ×b(t)

as required.