Can anyone tell me how does Pythagoras discovered his famous
theorem - The Pythagoras Theorem?
Does he discover it by drawing the triangle and measure it? Or
just by guessing? I want to know because I haven't seen a proof
for the theorem by Pythagoras himself; instead I have seen other
proofs by other mathematician.
- Pythagoras didn't exist.
- His theroem was known before the ancient greeks.
Wow, I've never heard anyone claim
Pythagoras didn't exist before. The way I understood it (but
perhaps this is only one of many possibilities) the theorem was
actually discovered/proven not by Pythagoras but by one of the
Pythagoreans (those are the students of Pythagoras). In fact it
is reputed that the discovery partly caused the collapse of his
school. Because Pythagoras had built his model of the world in
which all quantities are the ratio of two integers (so are called
rational in today's terminology). Pythagoras theorem shows that
the hypotenuse of the isoceles triangle with sides 1 and 1 is
sqrt(2) - and no rational number squares to 2. Therefore rational
numbers are insufficient to describe geometry, and so the
Pythagoras world model in which rational numbers described
everything fell apart.
I don't know how the theorem was first proved (by whoever it
was). It is possible that the result was obtained empirically as
you suggest but my guess would be that it was discovered at
exactly the same time it was proven.
I've heard the theory that Pythagoras didn't exist. Though I've no idea of any of the evidence for or against his existence, so I wouldn't like to comment on whether this is or isn't the case.
All I know is what I have learnt from
Dr
Bursill-Hall 's excellent History of Mathematics
lectures.
He claims that Pythagoras never existed, or that there is
practically no evidence for his existence. He also provided much
evidence that people knew about the theorem long before the
ancient greeks. I don't have his lecture notes with me but I
recall in particular an Arabian mud tablet with the expansion of
root 2 to a very high order of accuracy.
Very interesting. I'll see if I can find out more.
I think that not much people think about this question before,
because we just learn from the school's text book and we just
memorize this theorem. It's strange that there is no proof for
the Pythagoras theorem in the text book. Even the teachers don't
know the proof. So I look into the internet and I found the
proof, but not a single one by Pythagoras or the Pythagoreans.
Here is the web page's address, hope it helps.
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/3740/diagrams.html
You're right - I have only known the proof of Pythagoras for three years whereas I must have known the theorem for a lot longer - I covered it in Year 8 as I remember. But I didn't really understand the concept of a proof before a few years back anyway.
In my view the most attractive geometric proof follows from
inscribing a skewed square inside a bounding square and
calculating the area.
[This can be found here .
- The Editor]
Well I didn't know a proof at all until
I followed that link above - but now I do :-)
Perhaps the reason that you can't find the original proof is that
no-one knows?
I had thought that Pythagoras proved his theorem by the use of areas in a square. If no one beats me to it, I'll post an image which should give you a good idea. But, then again, this was probably done by another mathematician..
Michael, you mentioned the Pythagoreans, if I recall right, there was also something called the Brotherhood? What was that all about?
One of the various proofs uses the concept of similar triangles. It goes as follows: Assumed that we have a right triangle ABC, right-angled at A construct an altitude AD to BC, triangles ABC and DBA are found to be similar, from which we get AB/BC = AD/AB , OR AB2 = AD × BC, etc., etc., etc. - but I have no idea whether this is the proof by Pythagoras (if there was no Pythagoras then by the Mesopotamians who discovered the theorem), or if this is a recent proof. All the same, wonders never cease to be...!!!
There is a biography of Pythagoras on
the
St Andrew's History of Maths website .
There are many more proofs of the theorem, some of which can be
found in Proofs without words - exercises in visual
thinking by Roger B. Nelsen, and its sequel, Proofs
without words II .