If
then all
?
By Brad Rodgers on Saturday, September 07,
2002 - 11:11 pm:
Is it true that, if for all k,
,
then all am = 0? [I can prove the converse ;)]
This would be a generalization of the theorem:
Under the identification of the place with the set of complex numbers, let
be a function such that for all regular
n-gon A1 A2 ...An in the complex
plane,
f(A1 ) + f(A2 ) + ... + f(An ) =
0,
then f(z) = 0 for all z.
I know how to prove this. Any ideas on how to prove the first
statement (or disprove it)?
Brad
By David Loeffler on Monday, September
09, 2002 - 01:56 pm:
I think we can build such a series up by induction, using
finite blocks of terms.
For any
, I suggest we build a block of terms of length
,
...
. Letting
this is obviously possible for
.
Suppose we can do such a block for a particular
. Then let
for
...
,
...
- so
we are appending
new blocks, to attain
for
...
.
We now see that
will cancel:
.
Since the block length
is a multiple of
, the infinite sum is 0
(since if we continue the construction, the blocks are multiplied by ever
smaller factors, so the sequence of partial sums oscillates between bounds
that are tending to 0 from above and below)
That's rather confusing (it confuses me and I wrote it
), so here's an example of how we
build it up in blocks:
1....
1 -1 .... (dealing with k=1)
(1 -1) (-1/2 1/2) (-1/2 1/2) (k=1 and 2)
[(1 -1) (-1/2 1/2) (-1/2 1/2)][(1/3 -1/3) (1/6 -1/6) (1/6
-1/6)][(1/3 -1/3) (1/6 -1/6) (1/6 -1/6)] (k=1, 2, 3)
The key is that k+1 divides the number of terms obtained at the
kth step, so when going along the sequence in steps of
k+1 we land on the first term in each new block; so we pick out
terms in the same positions in corresponding blocks.
David
By David Loeffler on Monday, September 09,
2002 - 02:03 pm:
PS. Pretty result, that one about
polygons, isn't it? I came across it in IMO training in spring
last year. I can't see how you're relating it to this one
though.
David
By Michael Doré on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 02:33 pm:
Well if you assume f (as a function from
C to C) has a power series, then you can substitute in complex
exponentials (representing vertices of polygons centred on the
origin) and add these together, and you get the sums Brad is
referring to. But obviously if f has a power series the result is
trivial anyway - it is trivial for any continuous f.