Graphs: y2 = x2 and
y2n + x2n = r2n
By James on November 2, 1998
:
- Is the graph
the same as
? I think not since
but I agree it should but I am still unsure.
Tell me what is right and wrong, please.
- Studying the nature of
where
is a positive
integer and
,
, and
are real. If
is 1 then the graph is a circle
as
increases the graph appears to become more like a square but never
reaches perfection.
Tell me, is
the equation for a square, and why or
why not?
Yours faithfully
no. p385 (James)
By Richard on November 3, 1998
:
Dear James,
Q1) Consider what any graph actually represents. For any given x
the value (or possibly values) of y that will be plotted against
it will be the values that satisfy the equation of the graph. If
the equation has more than one solution for a given x than all
solutions y should be plotted.
So now consider the equation you gave y2 =
x2 . Put x equal to a number so we can see what is
going on; say x=1. The values of y you should plot then, are
those that satisfy y2 = 1. i.e. y=+1, -1. You see that
you will get two distinct lines on your graph.
Now to find the whole line we consider the same equation for
general x. Put x=t, where t is any number. Then y must satisfy
y2 =t2 . Hence y= +t, -t. So you have the
parametric equation of the graph:
x=t, y=t
x=t, y=-t
So the graph is two straight lines, through the orgin with
gradients 1 and -1. Compare this with the graph of y=x.
What I have done above is very general. If it is just this
problem you wish to solve, then you must simply consider the
multivalued nature of the square root. y2
=x2 is equivalent to y=±x.
Q2) What you need here is a limiting argument. Writing down
etc.
doesn't really mean anything since infinity is not a number. Noone could tell
you what your equation involving infinity meant unless you could define
infinity well enough to know how it behaves, and it turns out that that is not
the best way to go about things anyway.
You may have seen things like: what is 1/n as n tends to
? As opposed
to: what is
? This is called taking a limit, and if you haven't
encountered it before then this could be rather confusing for you. If it is then
please write back for further clarification.
The correct way to write you last question is: What is the shape
of the graph of y2n +x2n =r2n as
n tends to infinity?
The answer is that it is a square.
You show this by considering the important parts of the graph one
at a time, and using limiting arguments in each case. The
important points to consider are the vertical edges of the
square, i.e. where x is roughly equal to -r and r, and the bit in
the middle. I leave it to an exercise for you to show that there
is no y solution beyond -r and r.
Okay, first the vertical edges. For x=r and x=-r, y2n
=0 so y=0. Now how about just to the right of x=-r, say x=-r+e,
where e is positive and can be made as small as you like. The
equation becomes y2n +(-r+e)2n
=r2n . Binomially expand (-r+e)2n to get
r2n -r(2n-1) *e*(2n)+...
Note that you can ignore the other terms in the binomial
expansion since they all contain factors of e2 or
e3 etc. and you are taking e to be small, so they are
insignificant compared to the first two terms.
Substituting this expansion into y2n
+(-r+e)2n =r2n , we get:
y2n =(2n)*e*r2n-1
and so
y=+-(2n)1/2n *e1/2n
*r(2n-1)/2n
Now consider what happens to each of these terms as n tends to
infinity.
(2n)1/2n tends to 1
e1/2n tends to 1
r(2n-1)/2n tends to r2n/2n = r.
So y tends to ±r, as it should if the graph was a square.
Note that the smaller you take e, the longer the e1/2n
term will take to converge to 1 for increasing n. See if you can
work out what this means graphically.
I leave the other case, (x=r) to you. The demonstration is along
exactly the same lines.
This explanation contains many concepts that may be new to you,
such as binomial expansions and limiting arguments, so if you
don't understand them don't worry. They are core concepts for
more advanced maths, but as such need teaching properly in a way
that can not be done on this website.
I hope this helps, if you do have any questions please write
back, and we'll do our best to answer them.
Best wishes,
Richard.