Uncountably many Countable Sets


By Tania Perez on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 03:09 am:

I really need your help...

How could I show that any countably infinite set has uncountably many infinite subsets of which any two have only a finite number of elements in common?

Thanks, Tania


By David Loeffler on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 02:42 pm:
Well, if we can construct such a family of subsets for any one countable set, the result follows for all countable sets as we can biject them all into each other.

Hence take the set Q of rationals and for any irrational real number a, consider the sequence Sa of rationals r1, r2, by taking the first few digits of the decimal expansion of a. For example, if a = p, we would have r1 = 3, r2 = 31/10, r3 = 314/100, r4 = 3141/1000 and so on.

Now, for any two irrationals a and b, the sets Sa and Sb will have at most finitely many elements in common. Since we have uncountably many rationals to choose from, this is our required uncountable family.

David


By Dave Sheridan on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 02:47 pm:

Since your initial set is countably infinite, we can suppose that it is the natural numbers - since it is certainly injective into the naturals, we may associate every element uniquely with a natural number. Furthermore, the injection can be assumed to be surjective by reordering.

So, all you have to do is prove that the natural numbers have this property. You need to form an uncountable collection of subsets of the naturals - can you see any way to do this? Think about which index set to use.

When you've come up with a way to find uncountably many subsets (with an index set) you can modify this to the collection you describe.

Let me know how you get on with this and then we'll investigate how to find this extra property.

-Dave


By Tania Perez on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 04:23 pm:

Thanks David, that's the way I am thinking... Thanks Dave, but David's explanation is more understandable, isn't it?

Tania


By Kerwin Hui on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 07:34 pm:

A variant of David's method which is immediately obvious is to consider the interval [0.1,1). Take each number in the interval in decimal expansion (excluding recurring 9 if there the decimal terminates) as 0.a1 a2 a3 ... and map the number to the set {a1 , a1 a2 , ...}. This set is clearly a subset of the natural numbers N and [0.1,1) is uncountable.

Kerwin