irrational
By Niranjan Srinivas on Thursday, October
25, 2001 - 11:06 am:
hi all,
can anyone prove that pi is irrational ?
I hope it will not involve very high mathematics ?
thanks
cheers
Niranjan.
By David Loeffler on Thursday, October
25, 2001 - 06:24 pm:
Hmm. I only know one proof, which was on a problem sheet
one of our lecturers gave out about a month ago. It involves mathematics of
supposedly only A-level standard (it was an introductory sheet for new
students) but it is rather involved.
It goes (sort of) like this: let
be any integer.
Let
Then show, by integrating
by parts twice, that
. This is quite fiddly, as it is
easy to get very confused with the sheer volume of algebra, but it doesn't
need you to do anything particularly clever.
Now for the important bit. Suppose
is rational; then we can write
, so that both
and
are integers.
Then if we use this
in the recurrence relation above, we see that
is a sum of integer multiples of
and
. So if these are
integers,
is also an integer. We can check the values of
,
which is 2, and
, which is
. So, if our
exists, then
,
,
and hence
and all the other
's are integers.
Now we are almost there, although it may not look like it. How big is
?
Since
for
,
is positive for all
.
However, for
between 0 and
,
,
,
and
.
So
is at most
.
Can you see that as we make n larger and larger, this will inevitably get
smaller and smaller? In other words, it tends to 0 as
gets big.
So, we know three things about
:
- it's getting smaller and smaller
- it's never zero
- it's an integer
This can't be right, since if the last two are true, we would have to have
at least 1, which goes against the first.
So we have, at last, reached a contradiction. Thus our original assumption
that
existed must have been false; we can't write
, i.e. it is
irrational. QED.
David
By Kerwin Hui on Friday, October 26, 2001
- 12:03 am:
Maybe looking at this
archive is a good idea.
Kerwin
By Arun Iyer on Friday, October 26, 2001 -
07:57 pm:
a much similar but slightly different variation of the proof
is given here....
http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath313.htm
love arun