What does 00 equal?
1, 0, or is this not defined?
There could be just a convention for 00 , however I
don't remember it, so if anyone could help, thanks!
00 is not defined (It is like asking what is 0/0 the answer could be any real number as zero times any any real numer is zero). However it can be shown that xx where x can be infinitely close to zero (but not zero) is infinitely close to 1. in Other words: lim xx when x tends to 0 is 1.
About 00 , note that as x goes to 0, 0x goes to 0, but x0 tends to 1. So I think that there is a convention that 00 is defined as 1 because x0 occurs frequently in power series whereas 0x isn't really a very useful function at all.
Isn't x0 defined by x being multiplied by itself 0 times and then put into an equation? I think exponents were meant to abbreviate how many times a term appears in a multiplication, so any x0 would be 1. Complex proof: y=x0 differentiates to 0, so y always equals 1 so long as the binomial theorem is correct.
I agree with Brad here. It is far more useful to have
00 = 1 rather than 0.
The thing is that with x0 , the x actually doesn't
feature at all. The whole point of the exponent being 0 is that
the power is independent of x. If x = 0, then once you make it
dependent on x (by setting the exponent to anything greater than
0) the power does get influenced by the 0 and so the answer is 0.
On the other hand if you set it to something less than 0, it
becomes unbounded.
The problem is that in this case, division is not a good way to
reverse multiplication. But that doesn't mean 00
shouldn't be defined. It is defined by virtue of the fact that
the zero exponent means that the zero (being raised to the power)
is never multiplied in so can't affect the outcome.
Perhaps a good definition of f(x,y) = xy for real x,y
would be as follows. (I've got no idea if it's done this
way).
1) f(x,0) = 1
2) f(x,1) = x
3) f(x,a+b) = f(x,a)f(x,b) (a ¹
-b if x = 0)
4) f(x,ab) = f(f(x,a),b)
5) f(x,y) is continuous on y
That should do the trick I think. To extend to complex numbers
you need to look at its derivative, and generalise that
too.
Yours,
Michael
The usual way to define xy is
as ey ln(x) , where the exponential function is well
defined by its Taylor expansion. You can easily prove from this
that it has the five properties above; proving that a function
exists and is unique from the above looks more difficult but
probably quite easy (haven't tried).
-Dave
Well I think you can do it as follows.
By rule 2): f(x,1) = x.
By rule 3): f(x,a) = x f(x,a-1)
So f(x,2) = x2 , f(x,3) = x3 ...
For all integral n:
f(x,n) = xn
Then by rule 4): (letting a = 1/2 and b = 2)
f(x,1/2)2 = f(x,1) = x
Similarly by letting a = 1/n and b = n:
f(x,1/n)n = x
which shows that for all unit fractions it is consistent. Then to
get to all the other rationals apply rule 4) again. And then for
the irrationals use rule 5) - every irrational can be given a
sequence of rationals tending to the irrational limit. And the
sequence of f(x,rn ) will converge uniquely because
f(x,r) is continuous on the rationals. Therefore f(x,y) =
xy for all real y.
Maybe rule 1) is redundant...
Michael
Thank you for all your answers.
I wouldn't have thought so many answers would gather.
BRAD, could you tell me what the binomial theorem is?
It is an infinite series used to describe (x+b)n .
It's main use that I have seen is for differentiation. It
provides the mathematics to show that for every y=xn ,
dy/dx=nxn-1 . This important as it shows that
for
y=x0
dy/dx=0
And thus y always stays at 1.
Brad
The binomial theroem has many uses in all areas of maths,
especially probability, and series expansions (giving
approximations to series). If you go through the Special
Relativity formulae you can use the binomial theroem to show that
for v < < c, E~(1/2)mv2 , ie: Newton's mechanic
formula.
Neil M
Brad, I'm not sure that quite works. Say y=x0 , then dy/dx=0 x x-1 =0/x, not 0. At x=0 this is indeterminate: 0/0, so y can be defined to behave however you want at x=0.
Help,
My year 12 double extension maths son has asked me and I know
that BY DEFINITION 00 = 1 , but don't know how to
prove it to him.
His teachers don't know either !!
Any help will be appreciated greatly
(PS. This was written before I'd read
the message Kerwin has just posted...)
Actually I'd be inclined to say that you can't prove that
00 = 1, it is entirely a matter of what you define
00 to be, which is conventionally 1. You can, however,
demonstrate that this is a sensible definition, because
x0 = 1 for all x ¹ 0,
so it makes sense for 00 = 1 as well.
Just to confuse things, there is a certain argument for saying
that 00 should be 0, since 0x = 0 for all
positive x, but I think that despite this it makes more sense for
it to be 1.
I hope that clarifies things a little,
James.
Well, 00 =01 /01 =0/0 just to complicate matters..:) Though I would feel more happy about defining 0/0 to be 1 than 00
Multiplication is only defined on the set of real numbers bar 0 so 0/0 is meaningless.
Since we define , log(0) is undefined as we define (where the integral exists). is not integrable so is not defined.Er, multiplication is perfectly well defined on the real numbers including zero, but 0 has no multiplicative inverse, so (as you say) 0/0 is meaningless, similarly xy . You can fiddle around with limits in various ways, but (if I remember) you can get pretty much anything you like this way. For instance, there was a recent thread on this board I think where someone showed 10 =-1, his argument was that (-1)2n =1, therefore 11/2n =-1, let n tend to infinity and get 10 =-1. I hope this demonstrates the futility of this sort of argument? The argument for 00 =1 is usually made on the grounds of convenience, for instance in binomial expansions, etc.
The fact that we can call 00 either 'undefined' or let it be something sensible like 1 is, I think, analogous to the idea of Cauchy principal values. We can let the power and the number we are raising to it tend to 0 either at different rates (and from different directions) in which case our answer is not well defined, or we can let both parts tend to zero from above at the same rate, in which case we get 1.
I agree that the value 00
can't be deduced from the value of ab everywhere else,
and also that the most sensible definition is 1.
Here is a demonstration of why 00 = 1 is a good
idea:
By the binomial expansion:
(a + b)n = an b0 + nC1
an-1 b1 + ... + nCn a0
bn
Now set a = 1 and b = 0:
1n = 1n 00 (all but first term
goes to zero).
So 00 = 1.