The catenary, y=a cosh(x/a) is the shape of a perfectly flexible
chain suspended by its ends and acted on by gravity (not a
parabola)...what is so special about its equation that makes it
exactly right for our gravity?? I know
cosh(x)=(ex+e-x)/2, so does e have some
property that relates it to earth's gravity and does that mean that
all the equations involving e are somehow 'special' to earth? (it
would be terrible if that was true!)
Tania
Hello Tania,
The only difference between gravity on the Earth and gravity on
other planets is the strength. You know for example that gravity
will be much weaker on the moon, but otherwise it is exactly the
same. You seem to be concerned that this will alter the shape of
the chain, specifically that is will not be a catenary any
more.
To get an idea of what is going on and to simplify the problem,
consider a perfectly flexable chain suspended in a uniform
gravitational field. This approximates the situation on Earth if
the strength of the field is set to imitate the strength of
gravity, and by changing the value of the strength of the field you
can see what will happen on different planets.
You would use this idealized system to set up a differential
equation (which I guess you haven't done yet) and solve this
equation to get a catenary. Now altering the constant that
determines the strength of the field only alters a term of the
differential equation by a constant factor, and it turns out that
this always leads to y=a×cosh(x/b), just with different
values of a and b for different values of the gravitational field
constant.
So the catenary is not unique to Earth and there is no relation
between the strength of Earth's gravity and the value e. You can be
sure that whenever you get a mathematical constant (e.g. e)
directly relating to a physical constant (e.g.) g you are doing
something wrong.
I hope this helps
Simon & Richard.
Thanks, that does help but I guess it will be just one of those things I will have to think about for a long time. Just another question, I would have thought that the equation defining how a chain hangs due to gravity would be just a slight variation of the equation defining how an object falls due to gravity but it turns out this is not the case right? I think I read somewhere that the equation defining the path of an object due to gravity is parabolic. So is it just that I'm thinking the wrong way about these equations and gravity??
Tania,
The path of a free body under gravity is different to the shape of
a hanging chain because there
are extra forces acting on each link of the chain, specifically the
tension in the chain. This
makes it into a completely different problem with a different
solution. You are right that the path
of an object due to gravity is a parabola.
You should think of gravity simply as a force acting on masses, and
not try to consider real-world
intuition at the same time. Treat it mathematically and use
physical interpretation when the
maths is done. If you can't do the maths yet then you should learn
it before you think about these
problems, it helps a lot.
Note that the problem of finding the shape of a hanging chain is
quite a difficult problem, while
the path of a falling body is relatively easy, so you should start
there.
Hope this helps,
R
Ok, thanks. I guess I will stop trying to mix maths with physics ahead of what I've learned. Maybe someday it will all make sense! :)